ASN Wikibase Occurrence # 43240
Last updated: 24 May 2013
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Narrative:The Aerospatiale TB-9, N117ER, was observed on short final approach, and the Piper PA-38, N2351A, had turned from base to final just above and behind the TB-9. Two pilots on the ground transmitted warnings to the aircraft but no action was taken. The aircraft collided; the TB-9 sustained stabilator damage and nosed down and crashed. The Piper landed without further incident. Pilots on the ground reported seeing the Piper performing takeoffs and landings, and heard the pilot making position reports. The pilots only observed the TB-9 while on short final approach, and did not recall hearing any position reports from the pilots. They stated there were many aircraft with similar call signs and they might have missed the calls. The operator of the TB-9 teaches their pilots to fly a 1.6 nm final approach at a 3 degree descent angle while making visual approaches. Other pilots stated that this practice conflicts with pilots who fly normal close in approaches with a 3/4 to 1 nm final approach leg. The aircraft flying the long final are at a lower altitude where a pilot making a normal visual approach would not expect to see conflicting traffic. CAUSE: the failure of the pilots of both aircraft to see and avoid each other.
|Type:||Socata TB9 Tampico|
|Operator:||Embry-Riddle Aeronautical Unv|
|C/n / msn:|| 1509|
|Fatalities:||Fatalities: 3 / Occupants: 4|
|Airplane damage:|| Written off (damaged beyond repair)|
|Location:||New Smyrna Bch , FL -
United States of America
|Departure airport:||Daytona Beach, FL (DAB)|
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